Protestors Invade the Supreme Court (of America)

Jonathan Kleiman of the Legal Intellects blog and of Queen’s University Law, recently reported a story about a number of anti-torture protesters that invaded the Supreme Court and were arrested.

Kleiman says,

Those who were arrested were charged with violating one of two federal laws. The first is a ban on speeches and “loud, threatening, or abusive language” in the Court building or on its grounds, and applies to those arrested inside the building. Those who were arrested outside were charged with the second, which is a ban on assemblages and display of flags in the building or on the grounds.

The protesters apparently transgressed the limits to freedom of speech that exist even in the U.S.

LawIsCool has done several pieces on Guantanamo Bay and the Canadian citizen held there, including an interview with his counsel and the President of the Canadian Bar Association (CBA).

(We know you people are waiting for the next episode, and promise it will be released soon).

But the limits down south appear to be rapidly expanding, especially when directed towards the government.

One of our readers cited a report from the San Francisco Chronicle called Quarantining dissent: How the Secret Service protects Bush from free speech.

free speech zoneThe article describes how the American government cages protesters in with metal fences, often well out of sight from the President. These areas are ironically named, “Free Speech Zones.”

Violators have actually been charged with, “entering a restricted area around the president of the United States.” The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and others are suing the Secret Service, saying the protesters pose a political threat, not a physical threat.

But our reader points out the most disturbing part of the story,

…the FBI is actively conducting surveillance of antiwar demonstrators, supposedly to “blunt potential violence by extremist elements…”

Given the FBI’s expansive definition of “potential violence” in the past, this is a net that could catch almost any group or individual who falls into official disfavor.

This means that you too could be considered a violent extremist, just for peacefully dissenting with something the government of America says.

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3 Comments on "Protestors Invade the Supreme Court (of America)"

  1. Oh, I see: Free speech issues in the US means Canadian free speech issues are no problem for Canada. Accordingly, it would be fine and dandy with you for Canada to do away with any freedom of speech, if the rest of the world were a totalitarian cesspool?

    By the way, just as a matter of curiosity, are you completely unable to wrap your brain around the difference between WHERE you physically exercise your free speech (in a court building, school, private property) and your ability to publish your words in print, say them aloud on TV or the radio, or post them on the internet? (Further, it may interest you to know, these kinds of laws are not “rapidly expanding, especially when directed towards the government.” Here’s a dirty secret about “down south”: You often need a government permit to march or amass in order to protest something – that is, to exercise your right of free speech. If you don’t get this permit, YOU CAN BE ARRESTED! I am sure no other country has such restrictions. Therefore, Mark Steyn, Macleans, and Ezra Levant can all go to hell. Or jail … no matter.)
    You cannot fathom these differences in the laws in the US and Canada? Too bad. Let me put it a different way: Stop obsessing about the United States and its laws and start focusing on your own.


    LawIsCool: Oh, we are very well aware of the distinctions you cite. Permits are hardly the issue here when dealing with Free Speech Zones:

    Bursey later complained, “The problem was, the restricted area kept moving. It was wherever I happened to be standing.”

    This is the real irony though (and yes, these measures are quite new):

    Such unprecedented restrictions did not inhibit Bush from portraying himself as a champion of freedom during his visit.

    But perhaps most interesting, we find that this blogger, a Conservative from Calgary that calls you a troll, points out that you even consider criticizing the abuses at Abu Ghraib as hating America.
    Dylan says,

    Nomennovum doesn’t engage in debates, he doesn’t engage in “diologues” – he simply tells Canucks what’s what and that’s it.

    We equally feel that you, based in Washington D.C., should probably stop obsessing about Canada and its laws and start focusing on your own.

  2. You, Lawiscool, are a coward for deleting my comment. After all, doesn’t one ad hominem deserve another? If you insist on deleting my ad hominem comments, then delete your own too.

    No deleting involved. Just not approving of insults you call ad hominem comments (the other one you cite wasn’t ours, as confirmed by that blog owner).
    And all we did was quote some Conservative in Calgary, to demonstrate that even bloggers in areas of the political spectrum that we normally receive criticism from find you obtrusive.

    Grow a pair, my anonymous colleague.

    A pair of what, may we ask? Breasts perhaps, in this case?

  3. If you think Dylan is a conservative, the “pair” you need grow is brain cells.


    LawIsCool: Let’s see, Dylan’s site is called “Right of Center Ice.” He links to the PC Party with a huge logo. Oh, and he says,

    I am a socially progressive/fiscally conservative Mennonite studying International Development and Theology in Winnipeg.

    Note: this poster has made sexist an homophobic remarks and will no longer be allowed to access this site.

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