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	<title>Comments on: Criminal Defence Lawyers Need Not Apply</title>
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		<title>By: Joel Welch</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2010/02/06/criminal-defence-lawyers-need-not-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-8150</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to writing this post, I have discovered that the offending (not to mention offensive) legislation is found in the Ontario Police Services Act of Ontario.  Section 27 (13)states:

Persons who are ineligible to be members of a board

(13)  A judge, a justice of the peace, a police officer and a person who practises criminal law as a defence counsel may not be a member of a board. 1997, c. 8, s. 19 (3).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to writing this post, I have discovered that the offending (not to mention offensive) legislation is found in the Ontario Police Services Act of Ontario.  Section 27 (13)states:</p>
<p>Persons who are ineligible to be members of a board</p>
<p>(13)  A judge, a justice of the peace, a police officer and a person who practises criminal law as a defence counsel may not be a member of a board. 1997, c. 8, s. 19 (3).</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Venables</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2010/02/06/criminal-defence-lawyers-need-not-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-8143</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Venables</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good find Joel.

I too find this quite disturbing.  Oddly, enough I am currently working on a Pro-Bono case that involved Employment Law with respect to discrimination on hiring procedures by various charity organizations.

Now having a very rudimentary understanding of Employment Law, and not having taken the courses (yet!!!), I would be curious to know if this is actually discrimination against a potential candidate who happens to be a criminal defence lawyer&#039;s.

The OHRC does not indicate that current or past position is a discriminable ground.  However, the OHRC does list a number of exceptions under s. 24, however it would not apply because, again, current or past job is not listed.

To further complicate the pot, many times those hired to prosecute federal drug charges under the CDSA only do so part-time.  The remainder of the time they can work as defence council.  So in essence, this stipulation may be excluding even more people.  People that are trusted enough to prosecute offenders.

I too find this distressing.  It not only places those lawyers who prosecute above those who defend, but it also suggests that not all lawyers are the same.  Are all lawyers not officers of the court?  Are they not equally responsible for the rights and privileges that come with being called to the bar?  It appears not, because these positions suggest that criminal defence lawyers are either not of the same calibre or are not as trust worthy as crown attorneys because of the nature of their position.

Canada is an adversarial system.  A system that needs lawyers to defend, and it is wrong to suggest, by exclusion, that these lawyers are not up to the jobs simply because they sit on the left side of the court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good find Joel.</p>
<p>I too find this quite disturbing.  Oddly, enough I am currently working on a Pro-Bono case that involved Employment Law with respect to discrimination on hiring procedures by various charity organizations.</p>
<p>Now having a very rudimentary understanding of Employment Law, and not having taken the courses (yet!!!), I would be curious to know if this is actually discrimination against a potential candidate who happens to be a criminal defence lawyer&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The OHRC does not indicate that current or past position is a discriminable ground.  However, the OHRC does list a number of exceptions under s. 24, however it would not apply because, again, current or past job is not listed.</p>
<p>To further complicate the pot, many times those hired to prosecute federal drug charges under the CDSA only do so part-time.  The remainder of the time they can work as defence council.  So in essence, this stipulation may be excluding even more people.  People that are trusted enough to prosecute offenders.</p>
<p>I too find this distressing.  It not only places those lawyers who prosecute above those who defend, but it also suggests that not all lawyers are the same.  Are all lawyers not officers of the court?  Are they not equally responsible for the rights and privileges that come with being called to the bar?  It appears not, because these positions suggest that criminal defence lawyers are either not of the same calibre or are not as trust worthy as crown attorneys because of the nature of their position.</p>
<p>Canada is an adversarial system.  A system that needs lawyers to defend, and it is wrong to suggest, by exclusion, that these lawyers are not up to the jobs simply because they sit on the left side of the court.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Prutschi</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2010/02/06/criminal-defence-lawyers-need-not-apply/comment-page-1/#comment-8138</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Prutschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This little tidbit is deeply concerning.  It appears to leave open applications from Crown Attorneys who practice criminal law but not defence lawyers.  That should tell speak volumes about how serious the government is about seaking impartial appointments to its Police Services Board. Shameful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This little tidbit is deeply concerning.  It appears to leave open applications from Crown Attorneys who practice criminal law but not defence lawyers.  That should tell speak volumes about how serious the government is about seaking impartial appointments to its Police Services Board. Shameful.</p>
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