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		<title>By: Rémi Fournier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rémi Fournier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings to you all.
I live in Welland Ontario. I was arrested last night, Hand-cuffed, searched and thrown in jail.
Charged with uttering a death threat. Section 264.1, subsection 2. 
This is a long story.
In a nutshell My crime is hanging an 18 inch puppet in my backyard that is of the likeness of my neighbour. He is 25 years old. Above the noose, I wrote the word  KARMA   Not a word spoken. This all hapened in three hours time. I will turn 62 in april.  Still recovering from cancer and chemotherapy. Living on a small pension. I will plead not guilty . Court date is January 13th 2012. 

R Fournier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings to you all.<br />
I live in Welland Ontario. I was arrested last night, Hand-cuffed, searched and thrown in jail.<br />
Charged with uttering a death threat. Section 264.1, subsection 2.<br />
This is a long story.<br />
In a nutshell My crime is hanging an 18 inch puppet in my backyard that is of the likeness of my neighbour. He is 25 years old. Above the noose, I wrote the word  KARMA   Not a word spoken. This all hapened in three hours time. I will turn 62 in april.  Still recovering from cancer and chemotherapy. Living on a small pension. I will plead not guilty . Court date is January 13th 2012. </p>
<p>R Fournier</p>
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		<title>By: oncearoundjupiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>oncearoundjupiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need help and advice.... Do the words &quot;I could kill you if I wanted to&quot; constitute Uttering Threats?  

After hearing this from my boyfriend on Aug 27th, I went to my bedroom to grab a panic button that came with my security system (it provides me with instant 9-1-1 help). I didn&#039;t press it, but was prepared to do so if he made any advances.

He then said, &quot;That panic button won&#039;t do you any good&quot;, and I interpreted it to mean that he could do me in before emergency help would arrive.  I said, &quot;How would you do that?&quot;. &quot;Energy&quot;, he said.  I have no idea what that means, but it was very upsetting none the less.  The event was compounded with his screaming at full volume things like &quot;F*** YOU&quot;, &quot;SHUT UP&quot;, etc.  It took about an hour to diffuse him and calm him down.

If the parameter for this charge is that the threatening comment has to be intimidating, then yes, it hit the mark.  I was scared, and slept in a locked bedroom since that time.

He&#039;s a man that I&#039;ve been dating for over a year, and flies over the Rockies to see me.  He&#039;s here for several more days before flying home in 48 hours. I&#039;m doing my best to make everything as amiable as possible while he&#039;s here visiting. No problems so far.... but I&#039;m curious to know about Uttering Threats and if this constitutes a charge.  

Thanks for listening.

-  Sleepless in Saskatoon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need help and advice&#8230;. Do the words &#8220;I could kill you if I wanted to&#8221; constitute Uttering Threats?  </p>
<p>After hearing this from my boyfriend on Aug 27th, I went to my bedroom to grab a panic button that came with my security system (it provides me with instant 9-1-1 help). I didn&#8217;t press it, but was prepared to do so if he made any advances.</p>
<p>He then said, &#8220;That panic button won&#8217;t do you any good&#8221;, and I interpreted it to mean that he could do me in before emergency help would arrive.  I said, &#8220;How would you do that?&#8221;. &#8220;Energy&#8221;, he said.  I have no idea what that means, but it was very upsetting none the less.  The event was compounded with his screaming at full volume things like &#8220;F*** YOU&#8221;, &#8220;SHUT UP&#8221;, etc.  It took about an hour to diffuse him and calm him down.</p>
<p>If the parameter for this charge is that the threatening comment has to be intimidating, then yes, it hit the mark.  I was scared, and slept in a locked bedroom since that time.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a man that I&#8217;ve been dating for over a year, and flies over the Rockies to see me.  He&#8217;s here for several more days before flying home in 48 hours. I&#8217;m doing my best to make everything as amiable as possible while he&#8217;s here visiting. No problems so far&#8230;. but I&#8217;m curious to know about Uttering Threats and if this constitutes a charge.  </p>
<p>Thanks for listening.</p>
<p>-  Sleepless in Saskatoon</p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2009/11/14/uttering-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-11342</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 15:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My boyfriend just got charged with uttering threats to my ex. He has a court date coming up and I want to know how serious this is and if he can get off. My ex boyfriend is very verbally abusive and has been harassing me for months. He finally got sick of it and in the heat of the moment phoned him but he&#039;s a coward and didn&#039;t answer so he left a message saying he would come down there and hit him. He didn&#039;t actually go and realized how stupid it was to have said that. But my ex being an asshole that he is took the recording to the cops and pressed charges. He didn&#039;t mean it as it was in the heat of the moment and wanted to protect me. What can we do on his court date to stress this wasn&#039;t an actual threat but an emotion out of control?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My boyfriend just got charged with uttering threats to my ex. He has a court date coming up and I want to know how serious this is and if he can get off. My ex boyfriend is very verbally abusive and has been harassing me for months. He finally got sick of it and in the heat of the moment phoned him but he&#8217;s a coward and didn&#8217;t answer so he left a message saying he would come down there and hit him. He didn&#8217;t actually go and realized how stupid it was to have said that. But my ex being an asshole that he is took the recording to the cops and pressed charges. He didn&#8217;t mean it as it was in the heat of the moment and wanted to protect me. What can we do on his court date to stress this wasn&#8217;t an actual threat but an emotion out of control?</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2009/11/14/uttering-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-11330</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 03:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did Section 264.1 of the Criminal Code come into effect? To be more specific, how would today&#039;s laws differ from those in 1975 with respect to uttering a threat to injure?

Thank you in advance for any assistance you might provide. (Yes, I&#039;m working on a novel.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did Section 264.1 of the Criminal Code come into effect? To be more specific, how would today&#8217;s laws differ from those in 1975 with respect to uttering a threat to injure?</p>
<p>Thank you in advance for any assistance you might provide. (Yes, I&#8217;m working on a novel.)</p>
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		<title>By: hash</title>
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		<dc:creator>hash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am a law student 18 years old. this article was really amazing to read i really enjoyed it. this is very true if you intent to make a threat you will be convicted on indictment or summary conviction.it is very important for the adults to know the law about these offenses. for children under 18 they wont get that much punishment but for adults they will be severly charged. so many people doesn&#039;t have the knowledge about law, we should take time and read about these offenses. it will helps us in the future to be aware of these crimes and offenses so we dont commit any of these crimes. i wish i could offer free legal advice but we as law student are not allow to. the best advice we can give out is to contact a lawyer or read the criminal code to better understand the procdure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am a law student 18 years old. this article was really amazing to read i really enjoyed it. this is very true if you intent to make a threat you will be convicted on indictment or summary conviction.it is very important for the adults to know the law about these offenses. for children under 18 they wont get that much punishment but for adults they will be severly charged. so many people doesn&#8217;t have the knowledge about law, we should take time and read about these offenses. it will helps us in the future to be aware of these crimes and offenses so we dont commit any of these crimes. i wish i could offer free legal advice but we as law student are not allow to. the best advice we can give out is to contact a lawyer or read the criminal code to better understand the procdure.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2009/11/14/uttering-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-10983</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 14:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a policing student that just stumbled on to your site and wow I feel for you, you mention anything about the law and you get every nut coming out of the woodwork. I just wanted to thank you for your above information helped me out on my paper.

TO UNKNOWN: if the police wont listen to you about the man harassing you, tape record anything he says to you or your mom and there is not a judge in canada that will refuse you.... make sure you hide the recorder though... stay safe walk with a buddy as much as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a policing student that just stumbled on to your site and wow I feel for you, you mention anything about the law and you get every nut coming out of the woodwork. I just wanted to thank you for your above information helped me out on my paper.</p>
<p>TO UNKNOWN: if the police wont listen to you about the man harassing you, tape record anything he says to you or your mom and there is not a judge in canada that will refuse you&#8230;. make sure you hide the recorder though&#8230; stay safe walk with a buddy as much as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: jack singh</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 06:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear all,
the law is bull crap for uttering threats to kill someone in canada. go on you can threathen anyone that u will kill him or her and no harm can come to you as rcmp or law enforcement needs real proof meaning they need to really watch you that someone threathened you that he will kill you.
here s is a real example and we 5 brothers and sisters from india are fighting a losing battle against surrey RCMP that our mother was threathened by someone in canada that if she ever tried to return to india he will kill her as this individiual has usurped her property in india worth more than one million canadian dollars and he was keeping our mother in canada without her consent.rcmp is siding with paramjit singh because he is a canadian citizen now and says we dont see paramjit singh threathened our mother the case no is 2010 SRY-086156.
RCMP does not want to hear from us that paramjit singh entered canada on a false visa through 3 yes 3 major misrepresentation to procure his immigrant visa . they say its not our job. we say if paramjit was denied an immigrant visa at the first place our mother would nt have been in such a horrible position today penniless and on welfare. we have written to the honorable prime minister honourable jason kenney (minister of citizenship) honourable stephen rigby (president of cbsa) local MP , governor of BC , RCMP , many other investigation divisions but our complaints have fallen on deaf ears , we thought canada to be no one country in this world , reality is you cant get justice from someone who is a canadian citizen. our mother even told the neighbors that paramjit singh threathened to kill her but rcmp would nt interview them because paramjit singh is a canadian citizen now, paramjit singh entered canada by fooling that he is an electrical engineer and got his immigrant visa approved in fact he s not even got his high school diploma (he a a used car salesman) he stated in his application he was never married before in fact he was married (another major misrepresentation) again he never disclosed he applied for political asylum in USA where he gat his immigrant visa ( in fact he applied for political asylum in usa and when it was denied he applied for his immigrant visa from canada that he s an engineer and here he was successful in fooling CONSULAR OFFICER WARREN OF LOS ANGELES CONSULATE IN MARCH APRIL 1999) EVERYTHING IS FALLING ON DEAF EARS . its very hard to get justice in canada . we have left upto god . rcmp can never understand indian people . when we tell them to put paramjit on a lie detector test thet give us no reply.
If someone come forward and take our case to court we will really appreciate anyone who is a good attorney and a good human being who is willing to fight for truth and provide us justice and justice to our mom.all proofs were posted to everyone regarding paramjits fake degree to get immigrant visa and his misrepresentation.
email us at tigersingh85@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear all,<br />
the law is bull crap for uttering threats to kill someone in canada. go on you can threathen anyone that u will kill him or her and no harm can come to you as rcmp or law enforcement needs real proof meaning they need to really watch you that someone threathened you that he will kill you.<br />
here s is a real example and we 5 brothers and sisters from india are fighting a losing battle against surrey RCMP that our mother was threathened by someone in canada that if she ever tried to return to india he will kill her as this individiual has usurped her property in india worth more than one million canadian dollars and he was keeping our mother in canada without her consent.rcmp is siding with paramjit singh because he is a canadian citizen now and says we dont see paramjit singh threathened our mother the case no is 2010 SRY-086156.<br />
RCMP does not want to hear from us that paramjit singh entered canada on a false visa through 3 yes 3 major misrepresentation to procure his immigrant visa . they say its not our job. we say if paramjit was denied an immigrant visa at the first place our mother would nt have been in such a horrible position today penniless and on welfare. we have written to the honorable prime minister honourable jason kenney (minister of citizenship) honourable stephen rigby (president of cbsa) local MP , governor of BC , RCMP , many other investigation divisions but our complaints have fallen on deaf ears , we thought canada to be no one country in this world , reality is you cant get justice from someone who is a canadian citizen. our mother even told the neighbors that paramjit singh threathened to kill her but rcmp would nt interview them because paramjit singh is a canadian citizen now, paramjit singh entered canada by fooling that he is an electrical engineer and got his immigrant visa approved in fact he s not even got his high school diploma (he a a used car salesman) he stated in his application he was never married before in fact he was married (another major misrepresentation) again he never disclosed he applied for political asylum in USA where he gat his immigrant visa ( in fact he applied for political asylum in usa and when it was denied he applied for his immigrant visa from canada that he s an engineer and here he was successful in fooling CONSULAR OFFICER WARREN OF LOS ANGELES CONSULATE IN MARCH APRIL 1999) EVERYTHING IS FALLING ON DEAF EARS . its very hard to get justice in canada . we have left upto god . rcmp can never understand indian people . when we tell them to put paramjit on a lie detector test thet give us no reply.<br />
If someone come forward and take our case to court we will really appreciate anyone who is a good attorney and a good human being who is willing to fight for truth and provide us justice and justice to our mom.all proofs were posted to everyone regarding paramjits fake degree to get immigrant visa and his misrepresentation.<br />
email us at <a href="mailto:tigersingh85@hotmail.com">tigersingh85@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Allen-Nelson of the Boisjoli family</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2009/11/14/uttering-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-10924</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen-Nelson of the Boisjoli family</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 04:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear poor, poor law student.

First they have to prove they have jurisdiction to apply their CORPORATE POLICIES. I.E. charter article #32 &quot;this charter applies to parliament and legislature&quot;. so you see the statutes, codes, and bi-laws of Canada Corp. (yes it is a corporation...check dun &amp; Bradstreet or Hoovers) only apply to government employees. These laws are made to govern &quot;out-of-control&quot; government workers...they do not apply to the people. Also it is quite insane to assume anyone resides in &quot;Canada&quot;, a legal fiction, a man made corporation, that only exists on paper...wouldn&#039;t you say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear poor, poor law student.</p>
<p>First they have to prove they have jurisdiction to apply their CORPORATE POLICIES. I.E. charter article #32 &#8220;this charter applies to parliament and legislature&#8221;. so you see the statutes, codes, and bi-laws of Canada Corp. (yes it is a corporation&#8230;check dun &amp; Bradstreet or Hoovers) only apply to government employees. These laws are made to govern &#8220;out-of-control&#8221; government workers&#8230;they do not apply to the people. Also it is quite insane to assume anyone resides in &#8220;Canada&#8221;, a legal fiction, a man made corporation, that only exists on paper&#8230;wouldn&#8217;t you say?</p>
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		<dc:creator>unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 00:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im 14 years old after school i ride the bus home and walk home from the bus stop about a year ago i started receiving calls from a man asking for my mom and would tell her i saw you at some place and both you and your daughter are sexy and im going to rape you. that same man waited at my bus stop and would tell me many things like he is going to rape me and he would tell me he is going to kill me if i told and my little sister that is 7 years old and rape my 12 year old sister so i told him i wouldnt say anything he would meet me after school outside of the school and one day he took me a black rose and said soon i was going to be like that he also asked me if i wanted to die i said no he said im going to make you want to die you better watch out sooner or later im going to rape you he would also hit me and i finally told my parents and we went to the police they had a police car follow me around for a week then they said that all i wanted as attention and thats all they did now he is back and wont leave me alone i dont know what else to do i feel very alone and im scared he does something he said they called him the dead please help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im 14 years old after school i ride the bus home and walk home from the bus stop about a year ago i started receiving calls from a man asking for my mom and would tell her i saw you at some place and both you and your daughter are sexy and im going to rape you. that same man waited at my bus stop and would tell me many things like he is going to rape me and he would tell me he is going to kill me if i told and my little sister that is 7 years old and rape my 12 year old sister so i told him i wouldnt say anything he would meet me after school outside of the school and one day he took me a black rose and said soon i was going to be like that he also asked me if i wanted to die i said no he said im going to make you want to die you better watch out sooner or later im going to rape you he would also hit me and i finally told my parents and we went to the police they had a police car follow me around for a week then they said that all i wanted as attention and thats all they did now he is back and wont leave me alone i dont know what else to do i feel very alone and im scared he does something he said they called him the dead please help!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well readers, here is the secret formula &amp; it is used ALL the time.

Mom &amp; her friends decides one day that she wants a divorce &amp; Dad does not. Dad insists she come with him to marital counseling. Mom decides with the help of her bitter fad divorced women friends how to proceed.

She calls the police stating that her husband has &quot;uttered threats&quot;. The police come &amp; arrest Dad. This starts a crown - criminal case. Dad is immediately under a recognizance of bail condition which disallows him contact with the wife &amp; his children.

She starts a civil action to gain interim custody of the children of the marriage. This is done ex-parte (no evidence other than more of her lies).

The civil case starts, going into case-conference after initial interim access is granted (if it actually is). In my case: Judge Brownstone demanded interim access as her charade was obvious. 

But catch-22, your kids cannot have access because of the criminal cases geography stipulations of the recognizance of bail. The purpose of case-conference is to have the parties (Dad &amp; Mom) talk out a solution, but that is not possible because of the criminal cases communications stipulations of the recognizance of bail.

Dad goes to a justice of the piece (another woman) who allows for child access to proceed but not communications. Money is basically now wasted in multiple civil case-conferences.

Dad has a criminal trial. AS WITH 90 PERCENT of these cases, he is found guilty because &quot;they were in marriage counseling&quot;. No one questions that there was 17 years of marriage without incident. No one questions that if he was such a threat, why was access granted to the man. Dad now has a criminal record, is out of the home, &amp; mom is ensured custody. The alternate for the criminal court would be &quot;not guilty&quot; opening Mom to charges of false arrest etc. No one ever questions the mother&#039;s credibility. Her testimony to the police is suppressed in summary judgements. The psychotic claims could all have been concretely disproved.

So Mom gets custody in the civil court. This happens all the time. The saving grace for my situation, I was a stay-at-home Dad. Mom may have custody of the kids but both of them hate her guts. Dad promotes this, I have never lied to my children. They know their mother is a lying bipolar psychotic. When they grow &amp; leave her home, I hope they will do this for good.

The mother is ADD, BiPolar, Oppositionally Defiant, fully Borderline Personality Disordered individual. Her attempts at Parental Alienation have been thwarted. But the cost because of her denial &amp; immaturity? Dad &amp; Kids understand &amp; hate the woman. 

Mom now gets solace with SSRI anti-depressants. She has become just like her homies, a Bitter FAt Divorced Woman. The feminazis are overjoyed.

The state has no business in all of this unless a man takes a baseball bat to a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well readers, here is the secret formula &amp; it is used ALL the time.</p>
<p>Mom &amp; her friends decides one day that she wants a divorce &amp; Dad does not. Dad insists she come with him to marital counseling. Mom decides with the help of her bitter fad divorced women friends how to proceed.</p>
<p>She calls the police stating that her husband has &#8220;uttered threats&#8221;. The police come &amp; arrest Dad. This starts a crown &#8211; criminal case. Dad is immediately under a recognizance of bail condition which disallows him contact with the wife &amp; his children.</p>
<p>She starts a civil action to gain interim custody of the children of the marriage. This is done ex-parte (no evidence other than more of her lies).</p>
<p>The civil case starts, going into case-conference after initial interim access is granted (if it actually is). In my case: Judge Brownstone demanded interim access as her charade was obvious. </p>
<p>But catch-22, your kids cannot have access because of the criminal cases geography stipulations of the recognizance of bail. The purpose of case-conference is to have the parties (Dad &amp; Mom) talk out a solution, but that is not possible because of the criminal cases communications stipulations of the recognizance of bail.</p>
<p>Dad goes to a justice of the piece (another woman) who allows for child access to proceed but not communications. Money is basically now wasted in multiple civil case-conferences.</p>
<p>Dad has a criminal trial. AS WITH 90 PERCENT of these cases, he is found guilty because &#8220;they were in marriage counseling&#8221;. No one questions that there was 17 years of marriage without incident. No one questions that if he was such a threat, why was access granted to the man. Dad now has a criminal record, is out of the home, &amp; mom is ensured custody. The alternate for the criminal court would be &#8220;not guilty&#8221; opening Mom to charges of false arrest etc. No one ever questions the mother&#8217;s credibility. Her testimony to the police is suppressed in summary judgements. The psychotic claims could all have been concretely disproved.</p>
<p>So Mom gets custody in the civil court. This happens all the time. The saving grace for my situation, I was a stay-at-home Dad. Mom may have custody of the kids but both of them hate her guts. Dad promotes this, I have never lied to my children. They know their mother is a lying bipolar psychotic. When they grow &amp; leave her home, I hope they will do this for good.</p>
<p>The mother is ADD, BiPolar, Oppositionally Defiant, fully Borderline Personality Disordered individual. Her attempts at Parental Alienation have been thwarted. But the cost because of her denial &amp; immaturity? Dad &amp; Kids understand &amp; hate the woman. </p>
<p>Mom now gets solace with SSRI anti-depressants. She has become just like her homies, a Bitter FAt Divorced Woman. The feminazis are overjoyed.</p>
<p>The state has no business in all of this unless a man takes a baseball bat to a woman.</p>
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