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	<title>Comments on: Lord of the Rings as Property Law</title>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2008/03/29/lord-of-the-rings-as-property-law/comment-page-2/#comment-11301</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting way of looking at things!  I dont think I will watch the film in quite the same way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting way of looking at things!  I dont think I will watch the film in quite the same way!</p>
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		<title>By: Toby Niece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby Niece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me and my partner really much loved it write-up, we are standing straight down right now to a cup of tea and talking with the laptop computer beside us. Just most questions: Once did you get into blogging? How considerably is internet hosting per few weeks? How significantly are you reeling in per 30 days? How many visitors do you normally get? Have you learned any big triumph tales with folks blogging? Appreciated, we&#039;ll be checking back but you can e-mail us aswell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me and my partner really much loved it write-up, we are standing straight down right now to a cup of tea and talking with the laptop computer beside us. Just most questions: Once did you get into blogging? How considerably is internet hosting per few weeks? How significantly are you reeling in per 30 days? How many visitors do you normally get? Have you learned any big triumph tales with folks blogging? Appreciated, we&#8217;ll be checking back but you can e-mail us aswell.</p>
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		<title>By: Aitken Lawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aitken Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 01:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very good and I shall pass it around the office . What about Business law in the Godfather ? Ha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very good and I shall pass it around the office . What about Business law in the Godfather ? Ha</p>
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		<title>By: World News</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2008/03/29/lord-of-the-rings-as-property-law/comment-page-2/#comment-10291</link>
		<dc:creator>World News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: World News</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2008/03/29/lord-of-the-rings-as-property-law/comment-page-2/#comment-10290</link>
		<dc:creator>World News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DUI Guy</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2008/03/29/lord-of-the-rings-as-property-law/comment-page-2/#comment-9576</link>
		<dc:creator>DUI Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that is impressive. I must say I am going to have to sit down and watch the Lord of the Rings again and view it from your perspective. I&#039;m curious, how many times did you watch the movie before coming up with this idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that is impressive. I must say I am going to have to sit down and watch the Lord of the Rings again and view it from your perspective. I&#8217;m curious, how many times did you watch the movie before coming up with this idea?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 09:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Not sure how I dint come across this conversation  when was reading the lord of the rings. Awesome book. Frodo, Sam, Aragon, Gandalf....

And sorry for interrupting but this was an interesting read :) 

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Not sure how I dint come across this conversation  when was reading the lord of the rings. Awesome book. Frodo, Sam, Aragon, Gandalf&#8230;.</p>
<p>And sorry for interrupting but this was an interesting read :) </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: filiusdextris</title>
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		<dc:creator>filiusdextris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you made any inquiries to the forging of the rings?  Wasn&#039;t Sauron at the time of the Ring&#039;s creation an employee or independent contractor of the Elven smiths of Eregion?  Does its design count as intellectual property? If so, should the smiths, or their heirs, be the rightful owners? What would happen if the smiths could produce a Sauronian promise not to compete?  Again, if so, would they become the rightful owners?  At the time of this relationship, Sauron disguised as Annatar, &quot;Lord of the Gifts&quot;, thus working under false pretensions. Furthermore, I&#039;m guessing Sauron didn&#039;t have a work visa since he had broken his parole from the Valar and fled that realm.  Also, since Sauron&#039;s intent was to defraud from the outset, can he gain/profit from his illegal activities?  This would seem to be against the public interest.  For reference, the Three were completed c. S.A. 1590, with the One bieng completed ten years or so later c.1600.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you made any inquiries to the forging of the rings?  Wasn&#8217;t Sauron at the time of the Ring&#8217;s creation an employee or independent contractor of the Elven smiths of Eregion?  Does its design count as intellectual property? If so, should the smiths, or their heirs, be the rightful owners? What would happen if the smiths could produce a Sauronian promise not to compete?  Again, if so, would they become the rightful owners?  At the time of this relationship, Sauron disguised as Annatar, &#8220;Lord of the Gifts&#8221;, thus working under false pretensions. Furthermore, I&#8217;m guessing Sauron didn&#8217;t have a work visa since he had broken his parole from the Valar and fled that realm.  Also, since Sauron&#8217;s intent was to defraud from the outset, can he gain/profit from his illegal activities?  This would seem to be against the public interest.  For reference, the Three were completed c. S.A. 1590, with the One bieng completed ten years or so later c.1600.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robert Bexley.  Very nice!  However, while it notes the role of Gandalf as counsel, it forgets to mention his recusal from the deliberations in this case.  

That Saruman would dissent rather than likewise recusing himself only goes to show what kind of person he is.  Hopefully he&#039;s impeached before he further damages the court&#039;s credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert Bexley.  Very nice!  However, while it notes the role of Gandalf as counsel, it forgets to mention his recusal from the deliberations in this case.  </p>
<p>That Saruman would dissent rather than likewise recusing himself only goes to show what kind of person he is.  Hopefully he&#8217;s impeached before he further damages the court&#8217;s credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems we would also have a severe conflict-of-laws dispute here.  

A few of the possible issues this would give rise to: 

If decided under the Law of Mordor, a realm generally recognized (if loathed) by the other realms of Middle-Earth.  As dictator, he could serve as judge and jury in his own case, and the counsel for the opposition would be at a disadvantage as the fairer races consider it an ill omen for the words of the Black Tongue (the official language of Mordor) to be spoken aloud.  Of course, following his defeat, Sauron and the Realm of Mordor exist only in pretense.

Aragon, as King Elessar of Arnor, Gondor, and High King of the Reunited Kingdom, could claim sovereign immunity if suit was brought under the laws of these realms.

Additionally, the One Ring traveled and changed possession in a variety of realms - including various modern States, city-states, and private domains (Principalities?  I doubt any state would presume to claim Tom Bombadil&#039;s land, yet his &quot;country&quot; consists solely of his home and the surrounding environs) - and the various claimants and the locations where possession begin and end occur in different countries as well.  

This is complicated by the fact that the legal schemas vary widely from place to place - consider, for instance, the nature of the inhabitants of such varied locales as the Shire, Rivendell, Fangorn Forest, and the Lonely Mountain (either before or after the return of the King Under the Mountain and the demise of Smaug) and how the legal regimes would reflect such varying natures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems we would also have a severe conflict-of-laws dispute here.  </p>
<p>A few of the possible issues this would give rise to: </p>
<p>If decided under the Law of Mordor, a realm generally recognized (if loathed) by the other realms of Middle-Earth.  As dictator, he could serve as judge and jury in his own case, and the counsel for the opposition would be at a disadvantage as the fairer races consider it an ill omen for the words of the Black Tongue (the official language of Mordor) to be spoken aloud.  Of course, following his defeat, Sauron and the Realm of Mordor exist only in pretense.</p>
<p>Aragon, as King Elessar of Arnor, Gondor, and High King of the Reunited Kingdom, could claim sovereign immunity if suit was brought under the laws of these realms.</p>
<p>Additionally, the One Ring traveled and changed possession in a variety of realms &#8211; including various modern States, city-states, and private domains (Principalities?  I doubt any state would presume to claim Tom Bombadil&#8217;s land, yet his &#8220;country&#8221; consists solely of his home and the surrounding environs) &#8211; and the various claimants and the locations where possession begin and end occur in different countries as well.  </p>
<p>This is complicated by the fact that the legal schemas vary widely from place to place &#8211; consider, for instance, the nature of the inhabitants of such varied locales as the Shire, Rivendell, Fangorn Forest, and the Lonely Mountain (either before or after the return of the King Under the Mountain and the demise of Smaug) and how the legal regimes would reflect such varying natures.</p>
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