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	<title>Comments on: Unfair Dealing &#8211; Another Independent Documentary</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until all the information is released from the publication ban, this video is nothing but painful speculation.  This documentary is proof that the RCMP are damned if they arrest these guys before they do anything serious.  They would certainly be attacked if this group actually got away with it.  Next time a similar bunch tries to do the same thing, they won&#039;t need to go far for fertilizer, they can just pick up the large pile that is this documentary.

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LawIsCool:  Jeff, we have considerable reason to be skeptical about the accuracy of information gathered by such agencies due to other recent operations such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://ocap.ca/taxonomy/term/14&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Project Threadbare&lt;/a&gt;, where 100% of those arrested were released without charges.  Their lives were still ruined despite their innocence.  Many Canadians were similarly convinced of Maher Arar&#039;s guilt until he was vindicated.  
In part, this is why the RCMP is currently being &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/03/20/rcmp-day.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;overhauled&lt;/a&gt;.  
We agree that definitively nothing can be stated until the case is resolved.  However, when the informant, one of only two, suggests that the majority of the accused may be innocent as well, there is reason for suspicion.  Even more alarming is that this informant probably made similar claims during preliminaries, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestar.com/article/260191&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;prompting the Crown&lt;/a&gt; to go directly to trial.  
The rule of law should apply equally to all.  In many of these cases we are learning that this is not necessarily the case.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until all the information is released from the publication ban, this video is nothing but painful speculation.  This documentary is proof that the RCMP are damned if they arrest these guys before they do anything serious.  They would certainly be attacked if this group actually got away with it.  Next time a similar bunch tries to do the same thing, they won&#8217;t need to go far for fertilizer, they can just pick up the large pile that is this documentary.</p>
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<p>LawIsCool:  Jeff, we have considerable reason to be skeptical about the accuracy of information gathered by such agencies due to other recent operations such as <a href="http://ocap.ca/taxonomy/term/14" rel="nofollow">Project Threadbare</a>, where 100% of those arrested were released without charges.  Their lives were still ruined despite their innocence.  Many Canadians were similarly convinced of Maher Arar&#8217;s guilt until he was vindicated.<br />
In part, this is why the RCMP is currently being <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/03/20/rcmp-day.html" rel="nofollow">overhauled</a>.<br />
We agree that definitively nothing can be stated until the case is resolved.  However, when the informant, one of only two, suggests that the majority of the accused may be innocent as well, there is reason for suspicion.  Even more alarming is that this informant probably made similar claims during preliminaries, <a href="http://www.thestar.com/article/260191" rel="nofollow">prompting the Crown</a> to go directly to trial.<br />
The rule of law should apply equally to all.  In many of these cases we are learning that this is not necessarily the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Gridin</title>
		<link>http://lawiscool.com/2008/03/16/unfair-dealing-another-independent-documentary/comment-page-1/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence Gridin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting video. 

What always troubled me, from when I woke up and watched the footage of the arrests that day, was the extent to which it was designed to be a spectacle. It seemed so very obvious that the number of police involved, the heavy weaponry, the helicopters... all of it was completely out of proportion. It was designed to make for spectacular news footage. 

A couple of weeks ago I was given a brief tour of the &quot;ceremonial courtroom&quot; that has been completely redesigned to hear the case of these alleged terrorists. Again, it&#039;s designed with the media in mind. The courtroom is massive, with extensive seating and a special media gallery looking down. The accused will be sitting in a large glass box. Again: all spectacle.

I have no idea whether these men are guilty or innocent. But that&#039;s the point, isn&#039;t it? The media and the politicians have already rendered a verdict. This case is, and always has been, heavily exploited for political reasons. 

Quite frankly it degrades our justice system. Whether or not the men are ultimately found to be guilty, the way that our government has used this case is a page right out of the Bush administration&#039;s book. Is that really the path we want to go down?

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LawIsCool:  Excellent questions Lawrence.  The experts would suggest that this is exactly the opposite approach needed to deal with this challenge.  Look for a post on the subject within the next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting video. </p>
<p>What always troubled me, from when I woke up and watched the footage of the arrests that day, was the extent to which it was designed to be a spectacle. It seemed so very obvious that the number of police involved, the heavy weaponry, the helicopters&#8230; all of it was completely out of proportion. It was designed to make for spectacular news footage. </p>
<p>A couple of weeks ago I was given a brief tour of the &#8220;ceremonial courtroom&#8221; that has been completely redesigned to hear the case of these alleged terrorists. Again, it&#8217;s designed with the media in mind. The courtroom is massive, with extensive seating and a special media gallery looking down. The accused will be sitting in a large glass box. Again: all spectacle.</p>
<p>I have no idea whether these men are guilty or innocent. But that&#8217;s the point, isn&#8217;t it? The media and the politicians have already rendered a verdict. This case is, and always has been, heavily exploited for political reasons. </p>
<p>Quite frankly it degrades our justice system. Whether or not the men are ultimately found to be guilty, the way that our government has used this case is a page right out of the Bush administration&#8217;s book. Is that really the path we want to go down?</p>
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<p>LawIsCool:  Excellent questions Lawrence.  The experts would suggest that this is exactly the opposite approach needed to deal with this challenge.  Look for a post on the subject within the next week.</p>
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		<title>By: YouTube - 4 - Unfair Dealing: The Toronto Homegrown Terror Threat 4/6</title>
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		<dc:creator>YouTube - 4 - Unfair Dealing: The Toronto Homegrown Terror Threat 4/6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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